and you abuse it, it will be taken away. host: karl rove spoke yesterday on abc about the report. let's hear what he had to stay. [video clip] >> those are tactical challenges that are easily described. but the party also faces a strategic issues that are harder to define or provide an answer to. one interesting thing that has happened is if you look at the recent months, paul ryan, scott walker, bobby jindal, they have come forward with interesting speeches talking about the future of the party. this is the process that each party goes through after losing a presidential election. it is a constructive process. be strain is that it has to a party that stands for the right of every american and a party that emphasizes growth and prosperity, and i think that is right, it allows us to make our argument in every corner in america in a powerful way. coming from voices like bobby jindal and susanna martina's, it gives us greater credibility. host: what is the role of people like karl rove in shaping the future of the party? guest: it is whatever the industry wanted to be, no doubt about it.